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Doreen
Cronin
and Betsy Lewin
interviewed
by Linda M. Castellitto
Doreen
Cronin and Betsy Lewin are the author-and-illustrator team behind the 2003 Book
Sense Book of the Year Illustrated Children's Fiction nominee Giggle,
Giggle, Quack -- a hilarious follow-up to the pair's Caldecott Honor
book Click
Clack Moo: Cows That Type.
We
were lucky enough to email with both women and ask them questions about their
careers, how they work together, and the impish animals in their lives.
BookSense.com:
Ms. Cronin, you were an attorney in Manhattan before you became a full-time
children's-book author. What brought about your career change?
Doreen
Cronin: Like most writers, it took me many years and hundreds of
rejection letters before I was fortunate enough to be published. I think most
writers start out with a dual career, i.e., one as a "writer" and one that pays
the bills (lawyer, accountant, teacher, etc.). After my first book, Click
Clack Moo, was published, I juggled both law and writing. Finally, it was
time to make a choice, and it was essentially a no-brainer.
What did you
learn as a lawyer that has helped you as a writer, or vice versa?
DC:
Being a lawyer certainly helps when it comes to negotiating and understanding
publishing contracts! Other than that, a sense of humor comes in very handy
in both professions (or any profession, for that matter).
When
you wrote the books, did you have an illustrator -- or an illustration-style
-- in mind? How did you end up working with Ms. Lewin?
DC:
I had a very, very loose abstract picture in my head of what the animals
might look like. Betsy's illustrations are, in a word, perfect. It was the publisher
who decided after reading the manuscript that Betsy would be the one.
Do you know
anyone like Bob, Farmer Brown, or Duck? Are your characters ever, or often,
based on people (or animals!) you know?
DC:
I think Bob and Farmer Brown are compilations of people I know! Duck is
essentially me and every other mischievous child I've ever known and loved.
Ms. Lewin,
have you held other jobs in addition to that of book-illustrator?
Betsy
Lewin: I worked in greeting cards, did some magazine and corporate
brochure illustration, and wrote and illustrated stories and poems for Humpty
Dumpty, a magazine for children. I have also acted as a rep for my husband,
Ted, since 1979. He doesn't really need me anymore, but I still handle his contracts,
etc., out of habit.
What illustrators
influenced your interest in art, and your creative process (whether as a child
or later on)?
BL:
As a child I loved the illustrations of Ernest
Shepard, A.B. Frost, and Beatrix
Potter. I was also greatly influenced by movie cartoons: Disney, Walter
Lance, and Loony Toons.
Later, Tiepolo,
Rembrandt, and Goya -- particularly their sketches -- and Daumier, plus contemporary
illustrators James Stevenson and Quentin Blake. (This is always such a tough
question! Where do you stop?!)
I read in the
flyleaf of Giggle, Giggle, Quack that you did brush drawings, which you
then photocopied so you could experiment with various color washes until you
found the balance and color you like. Is this a technique you use for all of
your books? What inspired you to use this method?
BL:
I do use this method a lot. Because my drawing is spontaneous, I want to keep
that freshness. I draw on tracing paper, and can add to or change the drawing
by using overlays of the tracing paper. Don't like the cow's legs? Tear them
off and add different ones. Don't like the facial expression? Tear off the head
and add a different one. And so on. My finished drawing looks like the Frankenstein
monster, but all those seams and tape disappear on the photocopy. I learned
this method by word of mouth. I can't remember the source. I sometimes draw
directly onto my watercolor paper. It just depends on the project.
I saw on your
website that you often collaborate with
your husband, Ted.
Can you tell us about some of your projects?
BL:
Ted and I always travel together and have the same experiences. Usually,
when we return home, each of us has a different idea for a book. Ted leans more
toward personal account, and I most often come up with a humorous idea. But,
when we went to Uganda to see the mountain gorillas, it was an extremely difficult
and exhausting trek. Since we had shared the misery, we decided to share the
telling of the story, Gorilla
Walk. We'd always been looking for a project to collaborate on and this
was perfect for combining our two artistic styles.
My "field sketches"
(mostly drawn from memory back home in my studio) lead the reader through the
story experiencing our mishaps and thrills. Ted's double-page spreads of our
objective (in this case, mountain gorillas) put the reader right there with
us.
That book was
very successful and we've done another, Elephant
Quest, set in the Okavango Delta in Botswana. We're working on one right
now about our travels in Australia, and we have four or five more lined up with
the same publisher, HarperCollins.
Ms. Lewin and
Ms. Cronin, please tell us a bit about the collaborative process you share,
and how things work when creating an illustrated book...
DC:
It's actually pretty funny, but one of our major concerns is whether
the actions in the book are "true to character." The original version of Giggle,
Giggle, Quack had Duck answering the phone when Farmer Brown calls to check
in. Betsy was adamant that Duck would never be dumb enough to answer the phone!
She was right!
BL:
Authors and illustrators don't usually work together. In fact, they
often never meet one another or even talk on the phone. They usually communicate
through editors and art directors. Sometimes it's because they live far away
from each other.
Doreen and I met
after Click, Clack, Moo was released -- due mainly, I think, to the book's
instant success. Since then, we've become good friends and enjoy a give-and-take
collaboration. Each of us is eager for the other's comments and/or advice.
The animals
in Giggle, Giggle, Quack are adorable -- and clever! Do you have any
impish animals in your lives?
DC:
My husband and I have a westie named Ruffie, who like most creatures, rules
the house. There are also two spiders that live in my office that I simply cannot
bring myself to harm.
BL:
I've had many impish animals in my life. We now have a one-eyed tabby named
Chopper, who likes to drink from the faucet and speaks English. His favorite
expression is "Oh, my God." We also have a black cat named Slick, who is addicted
to rubbing on plastic bags.
What were/are
your favorite kids' books?
DC:
Harold
and the Purple Crayon is my favorite children's book. It's so basic:
boy with crayon and imagination. The possibilities are limitless. As far as
humor goes, I love The
Stupids series by James
Marshall. I'm also a huge Babette
Cole fan.
BL:
Then and always: Winnie
the Pooh, Peter Rabbit, and Uncle Remus Tales. Now: Charlotte's
Web.
What are your
favorite bookstores?
DC:
This is an impossible question. Last year, Betsy's and my tour for Giggle,
Giggle, Quack took us to dozens of independent bookstores in Illinois, Minnesota,
Tennessee, and Ohio. One of the best things about independents is that they
are each unique.
One independent
put on a full-blown musical production of Giggle, Giggle, Quack and another
brought in live pigs and ducks for our visit! How could I possibly choose?
BL:
There aren't many independent book stores near us in Brooklyn. I
like Book Court on Court Street. My favorite is BookTenders in Doylestown, PA.
What are you
reading now?
DC:
Revenge,
A Story of Hope by Laura
Blumenfeld; Don't
Let's Go to the Dogs Tonight, An African Childhood by Alexandra
Fuller; and Of
Paradise and Power: America and Europe in the New World Order
by Robert
Kagan. Oh, and When
Everybody Wore a Hat, by William
Steig!
BL:
Don't Let's Go to the Dogs Tonight by Alexandra Fuller.
Have you done
any touring, together or separately?
DC:
Betsy and I just got back from Salina, Kansas, a beautiful town.
We also recently spent two days in Michigan visiting with school kids. And,
as I mentioned, Betsy and I did a whirlwind Midwestern tour last year for Giggle,
Giggle, Quack. We hope there will be more tours in the future!
Giggle,
Giggle, Quack was a Spring 2002 Kids' Book
Sense 76 Pick:
"Cronin
and Lewin have done it again! A clever and hysterical text paired with perfect,
expressively hilarious illustrations. Readers will gladly welcome back these
‘clever critters’ and revel in their escapades as they follow their duck!" --
Ellen Mager, Booktenders Children’s Bookstore, Doylestown, PA
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