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Emeril
Lagasse
Interview by Linda Richards
From January Magazine
Talking with the architect
of the Southern Cooking Renaissance
It's
probably safe to say that there has never been a chef with the impact and following
of Emeril Lagasse. Two successful television shows have made the man into a
household name. Five books and six restaurants haven't hurt either.
His most recent
book, Every
Day's A Party: Louisiana Recipes for Celebrating With Family and Friends
reads almost like a culinary love letter to his adopted state, Louisiana. With
recipes that range from the Southern holiday favorite Fried Turkey to the perfect
simplicity of Mint Julep Ice Cream, Every Day's A Party follows a year
of Louisiana-style holidays through bright tourism board-style photographs by
Philip Gould.
When he became
the chef of New Orleans' famous Commander's Table in the 1980s, Lagasse brought
his practical and classical training with him. In the early 1990s he opened
his first restaurant, Emeril's, a white tablecloth restaurant in the then-new
Warehouse District in New Orleans. Within a year, reports Lagasse, that restaurant
was neck deep in accolades and the master chef himself has never looked back.
Linda Richards:
To what do you attribute your unprecedented success?
Emeril Lagasse:
It's probably because I'm a good listener. And you have to have people to be
a good listener. I take that very seriously. And that helps me to do better
television. I don't really watch myself, so it's not like I'm critiquing. I
just don't do that. What I really get inspired from is the people.
Did you always
want to be a chef?
I
grew up in a little town in Massachusetts called Fall River. My dad is French
Canadian and my mom is Portuguese, so food from those cultures was always a
very important part of growing up. At that time, that said something, because
it really was kind of Moon food back there. Everybody was in a rush and the
birth of TV dinners and all this nonsense. And my family never really went there.
We always had the value of the family table and these cultural influences of
growing up and what we did.
When I was very
young I got interested. I had a natural talent for music. So I played music
and I ended up turning down a full scholarship of music at the conservatory
to pay to go to cooking school.
I started cooking
when I was about 10. I have memories like when I was six or seven with my mom
and when I was 12 I started getting real serious about cooking. And doing both:
I played music and cooked and baked. I started in a bakery, actually.
What instrument
did you play?
I was a percussion
major, but I wrote music and played a lot of instruments besides percussion.
I taught myself how to play a lot of wind instruments. And so when I had to
make the decision about cooking or music, when I chose cooking my mom and dad
were so upset. [Laughs] At the time. Now...
They've learned
to live with it. [Laughs]
Yeah, well...
then I went to a cooking school, then I went to a university and then I went
to Europe and then I came back and got very, very serious about it. I learned
a lot, about myself too, besides cooking. Because I had a really good background
and education because of being schooled and then classically trained. I had
a lot of knowledge. Then when I came back to the States and to New York, I learned
more about just being a person. That we all put our pants on the same way. That
it doesn't matter if you're American, Canadian, Swiss, French, German... I mean,
if you love what you do -- whether you're an auto mechanic or you sew clothes
or you cook -- it's all about personal passion and love that really makes the
thrust to the level that you want to get it to.
So, after that
there was kind of no looking back. It was serious. And then in 1982 I sort of
got lured to New Orleans, which I still think is one of those magical cities
in North America.
It had the
music as well as the food.
Exactly.
And I moved there and then when I kind of woke up, I never felt like I was away
from home because the people, the architecture, the music was like -- wow --
it was like being at home. For me, it was really like being home. And, food-wise,
those ingredients and techniques were truly my heritage.
Was it a place
that was more open to different types of food and styling?
No. Actually,
when I moved there, it was just starting to open up a little bit and nobody
had quite figured out how to do that because, you know, for 300 years it's been
kind of the same. There are restaurants in New Orleans that the menu hasn't
changed in 125 years, so how is one going to change or evolve the food?
You were really
fighting against tradition?
Well, what I did
was I never disrespected it. What I did is that I respected it. I submerged
myself into it. So on a lot of days off I would go and fish with the fishermen
and the families that ran the boats. I would go work the fields with farmers.
I would go and talk with farmers about growing particular products for me. What
that really did was -- and now that years have gone by and I look back at it
and I can put one and one and two together -- it was my childhood memories and
cultural feelings and beliefs in the whole tie-in of the French Canadian/Portuguese
thing.
I spent a lot
of time on farms when I was young. My uncle and my dad owned a big farm. My
other uncle owned another type farm. So I never really thought about that. I
just grew up with that. I never thought about what it was to have fresh milk,
or to take milk and make it into cheese and that sort of thing. Even though
that really wasn't happening in America, except maybe a little bit with Alice
Waters at the time.
Chez Panisse.
And when I was
doing this, I was doing it because I wanted to understand tradition. But at
the same time, growing up in New England, being schooled and classically trained,
it needed to shake, it needed to evolve. What better palate for me is that I
went to one of the famous restaurants in America -- Commander's Palace with
the Brennan family. Paul Prudhomme was the chef before me for five or six years
and he moved on to open his own restaurant and was becoming a phenomena. So
I went into this environment that I really didn't know, but began to start putting
the foundation in -- which I think is very, very important -- building a foundation
of what cuisine should be. Which is, from scratch. Using people that I was beginning
to meet and work with and growing rabbits and quail. Then I started raising
hogs... because I wanted to make my own andouille [sausage] and ham and my own
sausage. So, what I was doing at the same time I was flipping the standards
of the foundation of this successful 35-year-old restaurant, I was also implementing
my own style in a very discreet manner.
What
was exciting with these young culinarians who would never have respected someone
as young as I was coming in, is that I did have this knowledge and in
doing this they were learning about: Wait a minute, I can make sausage? You're
going to teach me how to cure? You mean I'm not just going to be at a grill
for 10 hours a day flipping steaks? What we began doing was building this incredible
new foundation in this restaurant and that's what began giving me the left-hand
side of tradition and the right-hand side, my new palate. To turn them on about
lamb, because there was no lamb when I got there. Quail, they scratched their
heads. I was there for seven and a half years, the last two and a half years
of that stint I ran the entire restaurant for the family. 185 employees: big
place. And all the ratings you can possibly imagine.
Ella, who is the
sister, and I got very close. She's like my second mom. Seven and a half years
later, I'd fallen in love with the city and I really wanted to do my own shingle.
And I thought I was going to do that with Ella. But we couldn't agree on location
because I was living in this new neighborhood in New Orleans called the Warehouse
District which is just that: a lot of warehouses that they were converting into
condominiums. It was hip and kind of Soho-ish if you will and they needed other
anchors. You've got to have restaurants and a post office and police barracks,
you know what I'm saying. And Ella was like: You're out of your mind to do that.
At the location of Emeril's, my first restaurant, it didn't even have a streetlight.
We actually pioneered the neighborhood.
It was a good
and bad thing because I had established a huge clientele -- more of an elderly
clientele -- at Commander's. I had established this very progressive food because
of my philosophies of from-scratch growing and we were on the cutting edge of
doing whatever cuisine-wise. But I was moving to this neighborhood that [that
clientele] didn't really identify with. It was a very, very scary transition.
I got turned down
by every banker. Finally the most conservative financial institution in North
America, really, gave me the money because I had done everything myself. The
business plan, the budgets, what the interior design was going to be, the kitchen
design, the analysis of the demographics, the wine list. I had done everything
myself. A block away I had a little tiny office that the landlord gave me for
free until I got going. For eight months I structured the entire concept of
what the restaurant was going to be. My best friend became the manager and maitre
d' and he and I -- with 33 people -- opened this white tablecloth restaurant
in the Warehouse District in 1990. By the end of 90, it blew the charts: we
were getting every award, we got the highest review ever done.
Almost three years
went by and I began realizing that we were getting the sort of core of people
that were extremely professional -- because we didn't hire actors or actresses
or students. We wanted people to be waiters or waitresses. You know: professional
people. And we were getting this core of people that were very serious. We'd
built this rock core and I didn't want to become the revolving door for the
industry, so I realized that I had to create some opportunities, because you
can only have so many sous chefs, managers, you know? Because you only have
so many seats.
The opportunity
came in the French Quarter, which was basically eight blocks away. That's when
I decided to do Nola, which provided a lot of opportunity for those core people
that wanted to stay with Emeril's: they didn't really want to leave. They wanted
to share the philosophy that he had started. Because it was more than just food
for me. I approached it as the ultimate restaurateur. I mean, I took it very
seriously. So, I instituted the systems and the service standards and the food
standards and the wine list. I bought the wine, I cooked a station every meal
period. It was exhausting. But it's what had to happen.
What now has happened
-- because the world has changed and it's almost been 11 years. I have 975 employees.
I have six restaurants. We haven't opened any new ones in almost three years.
And I still have people -- a lot of people -- that are in the core. They still
want to continue to build on the philosophies of Emeril now and apply their
experiences, but they also have to learn. Like in Orlando, my chef there, Bernard,
has been with me 18 years. My general manager has been with me 12 years there.
In Las Vegas, at Del Monico's Steakhouse, Rich is general manager and we've
worked together 14 years. I can go on and on and on. Tony at the original Emeril's
started as a busman 11 years ago when we opened Emeril's. His wife who was a
front waiter is now in the marketing department at home base.
What's home
base?
Home base is the
support system for -- I hate the word "corporate" -- home base is the support
system where we have a culinary team, my own writers because of the shows and
the books and stuff, we have a culinary team of about six people. Marketing,
public relations, accounting and all that sort of stuff.
It's become
an empire, really. What's your favorite part?
I
love it all, because it's all real. It all revolves around people. And it all
revolves around food, which is really my passion and my love of why I even began
doing this. You know the shows are at a different level and there's sometimes
a different guy in there, but there's not a different guy as far as the passion
for people or food or wine.
In the restaurant
it's much more serious. I think the whole thing is that I still wake up every
day and I'm still trying to do better than the day before and I'm still having
a lot of fun doing it, so that's what really kind of gets me up and makes me
want to do better than I did yesterday.
Linda Richards
is editor of January Magazine.
Author Photo
by David Middleton.
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